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To: abdlist@shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu

Subject: Abduction Digest

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Date: 25 May 91 10:50:21 MDT (Sat)

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Abduction Digest, Number 13

Saturday, May 25th 1991

Today's Topics:

Re: Tesla & Tau Ceti

Re: Rima Laibow (Conclusion)

Re: Rima Laibow (Conclusion)

Re: Rima Laibow (Conclusion)

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From: jrblack@shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu

Subject: Re: Tesla & Tau Ceti

Date: 22 May 91 03:41:53 GMT

From: James Roger Black

Why all the interest in Tau Ceti?

Tau Ceti is one of the four nearby stars most commonly cited as possible

homes for extraterrestrial life:

Name Spectra Distance Comments

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Epsilon Eridani K2 10.76 ly

61 Cygni K5/K7/?? 11.08 ly triple star

Epsilon Indi K5 11.44 ly

Tau Ceti G8 11.87 ly

These are the only star systems within a 16-light-year radius of earth

that are considered likely to have habitable planets. The others are

thought to be either too unstable gravitationally to have planets at

all, or are too hot, too cold, too young, too old, too whatever to

provide a stable environment for life to develop and to survive long

enough for it to achieve intelligence. Tau Ceti is considered the best

candidate, since it is the most like our own sun.

Of course, even 'uninhabitable' planets could be colonized by high-tech

immigrants from somewhere else; and in any case the parameters of

'official' opinion in this area change year by year. For example, it

was long thought impossible for multiple-star systems such as Alpha

Centauri and 61 Cygni to have stable planetary orbits within the

habitable zones, but computer simulations have questioned that

conclusion.

One reason these four are attractive is that they all lie approximately

11 light years from earth. Apparently the first major UFO waves took

place some 22-24 years after the first high-power radio transmissions

from earth which could have been detected at interstellar distances.

Such transmissions, moving at the speed of light, would have taken

about 11 years to reach them, and spacecraft moving at near-light speed

would have taken not much more than that to return here--hence the 22-24

year time frame.

Of course, that's assuming that 'they' are in fact extra-terrestrials,

which is far from proven. Jacques Vallee, Gordon Creighton, and others

have suggested that the so-called 'aliens' are in fact as closely bound

to this planet as we are, in which case Tau Ceti is utterly

irrelevant.

Or, maybe, both theories are right ...

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From: Paul.Carr@f4.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Carr)

Subject: Re: Rima Laibow (Conclusion)

Date: 19 May 91 20:19:00 GMT

One very interesting aspect of the Rima Laibow paper is that

it describes a semi-repeatable experiment - Having a psychiatrist

test several abductess, attempting to deduce if they have anything in

common. A control group of non-abductees (or perhaps several such

groups) would be needed to establish the validity of the results.

Let CSICOP's Psychologists (Robert A. Baker, Irving Biederman,

Susan Blackmore, Milton Rosenberg, and B.F. Skinner) pick the

psychiatrists to perform the examinations.

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From: Jim.Speiser@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)

Subject: Re: Rima Laibow (Conclusion)

Date: 20 May 91 06:48:00 GMT

Paul:

On the subject of Robert Baker, are you aware of a book of his entitled

"They Call It Hypnosis"? (presumably Prometheus). I have been told that in

it he speaks of a study of 300 abductees, in which it was discovered that a

large majority of them, on the order of 80-90%, suffered from Fantasy-Prone

Personality. I'm asking because this information not only came as a shock to

me, but to several other "professionals" I've conversed with. One of them

assured me that the only people who have ever worked with such a large group

were Budd Hopkins and, indirectly, Eddie Bullard. If you, or anyone

watching, is aware of this book or the aforementioned study, please speak

up. Abductees everywhere are waiting with baited breath!

Jim

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From: Paul.Carr@f4.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Carr)

Subject: Re: Rima Laibow (Conclusion)

Date: 21 May 91 19:11:00 GMT

Did Dr. Baker work with a control group? And where did he get 300

abductees? Put an ad in the National Enquirer?

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