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From: wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick)
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Subject: Re: Area 51, Facility S4?
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jlpicard@woofer.austin.ibm.com (Craig Becker) writes:
>"...what can you find out about Area 51, Facility S4 in the
> Mojave desert. I know SETI is, literally, right around the
> corner from it but nobody's talking about what the other
> is for."
I have never heard of S4 but Area 51 is getting to be fairly
commonly known amongst those of us who are aviation freaks. The area
is shown on maps as "Groom Lake (dry)" and was known to the CIA folks
as "the Ranch" for one and sometimes "Dreamland" for another nickname.
The upshot of most of the Groom Lake facility is that it is where
the first U2's were tested in the 50's. It is also where the first
Blackbirds, the CIA's A12's were tested and operated from. You would also
find that the Lockheed Have Blue aircraft, the proof-of-concept vehicle
for the F117A Nighthawk, were tested there. The Northrop TR3A Black
Manta, of which we still know very little was supposed to have been
tested there (really an outgrowth of both the THAP - Tactical High
Altitude Penetrator - and the CSIRS, which I don't recall the meaning of).
More than likely the Lockheed Aurora is flying out of there
and is probably responsible for a lot of questions - an aircraft called
"the pulser" probably flies out of there as well. Lord only knows (and
the USAF....) what other good shit comes tooting out of Groom Lake late
at night.
>Also, my friend would be interested in any new data on
>Hangar 21.
Right off the top of my head I'd say it is probably between
hangars 20 and 22.... :-)
Duane
From billy@anasaz (Bill Moore) Mon Feb 3 16:48:05 1992
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From: billy@anasaz (Bill Moore)
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Subject: Re: Area 51, Facility S4?
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In article <15707@awdprime.UUCP> craigb@ot.austin.ibm.com writes:
->A friend of mine who doesn't have access to the .net asks
->
->"...what can you find out about Area 51, Facility S4 in the
-> Mojave desert. I know SETI is, literally, right around the
-> corner from it but nobody's talking about what the other
-> is for."
->
->Also, my friend would be interested in any new data on
->Hangar 21.
->
Area 51 is a secret Air Force test range about 125 miles north of Las Vegas,
Nevada. It's secret in that you can't go there or fly over it but everybody
knows its there. Lot's of people who live in Las Vegas work in Area 51 and
make no secret about it.
The Stealth fighter and B2 bomber were tested there and Aurora is based there
now. They also test new weaponry there - lasers for example. It's been
alleged there's a test fusion reactor there too.
S4, or Section 4, is the location Robert Lazar said he worked in when he saw
UFOs at Area 51. There is an S1 and an S2 so it may follow there's an S4 but
he's the only one who I've heard mention it so far.
Hanger 21? Never heard of it. There's a science fiction movie called
"Hanger 18" about a captured UFO. I think it was blown up in the movie.
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From wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick) Tue Feb 4 18:00:35 1992
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From: wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick)
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Subject: Re: Area 51, Facility S4?
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jcj@tellabs.com writes:
>>... The Stealth fighter and B2 bomber were tested there and Aurora is
>>based there now. ...
>Aurora is a very high altitude recon plane?
Aurora is a name for a black project that was accidentally released in,
uh, 1985 or 86 I think, in a congressional budget report. The generic
information that has been slowly seeping out is that we are dealing
with a high-altitude recon aircraft of some sort, possibly unmanned.
It may be hypersonic in the sense that speeds could be well above the
Blackbirds Mach 3.2+. There have been test vehicles that have flown
in the Mach 10+ range, according to some reports, although these may
not have been connected to Aurora. Keep in mind that Aurora may be
just a bogus code name, but there DOES appear to be at LEAST this
black aircraft (more, really.....).
Aurora is one seriously damn blackworld project and there is precious
little information about it.
A number of people who have been digging around on it are reputed to
have been visited by the folks in the blue suits and told to back off.
I can't verify that, but that is what I have been told.
Names I can't and won't name, in part because a number of these folks
actually may work in DOD-related areas, and unfortunately, this newsgroup
does NOT enjoy a reputation for being a source of factual information.
I post this information in the hope of spreading about what little
appears to be common knowledge and may be reasonably accurate until
such time as more becomes available, rather than relying on a bunch
of tabloid-based rumours.
Duane