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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 339

Monday, December 17th 1990

Today's Topics:

Statistics

Re: Omni Magazine - Special UFO issue

Media coverage

Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit

Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit Part 6

Phenomenon framed again!

Re: Al seckel

Re: Prof. Jean-Pierre Petit

Re: Phenomenon Framed Again!

Phenomenon framed again!

Re: Phenomenon framed again!

Phenomenon framed again!

Re: Phenomenon framed again!

Re: Phenomenon framed again!

Roswell Witness Surfaces

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From: Kurt.Lochner@p22.f66.n147.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Kurt Lochner)

Subject: Statistics

Date: 11 Dec 90 17:44:56 GMT

Well, I'll be....my message did get out.

>

> Lazar's Element 115 .....

> .................................. 2 0.3%

Terrific,

and I re-worked all the batch files for some other

feeds too. Here's what I've been reading of late.

"Out There"-remarkable yet kinda hurried, which matters

little to me. I find that book to be pretty credible,

though non-commital. Yes, it answers the question that's

been in everybody's mind for some time, unanswered by

any kind of authority (plural). So, great...there IS

some kind of coverup, but what's being covered up?

As I've said earlier, the Air Force and any others

engaged in the subject have not generated a single

reason or explanation to satisfy themselves to declassify

anything of importance. Perhaps the outer "arms" of

this galaxy, the Orion Arm being our district, are a

little more crowded than even Drake's Equation permits?

"Above Top Secret" hehehe, I can't keep from skipping

ahead to see some of the more recent sightings. Again,

we have the texts of MJ-12 and several plates of some

pleasent faces, and some of the international sightings

are really well done. It's not easy reading but it's

interesting to find parts about the nuts/bolts.

And that's what I really wrote to you about..

I've been making noises about the propulsion scenarios

involved with these sighting. Letting the sightings display

the overall characteristics of such a machine saves alot of

guesswork. The international sightings pointed it out,

at least to me, when one guy said that it sounded kinda like

a refrigerator taking off.

Later in the book, a guy that was present at some questionable crash recovery

sight later on told his

daughter that the craft operate on water, and that it might

threaten the oil industry. To support this conjecture,

I believe that if I was pressed to do, I could find a significant number of

sightings around water, and I recall some from earlier publications of

observing hoses in the

water. If you think that boiling water under pressure

does marvelous energy transfers, try thinking about water

in a partial vacumn...or ammonia, or even methane.

So, in closing, I can see that my previous posting was

pretty useless, I'll try not to waste bandwidth again until

I've caught up my reading, but I thought that I might be able to add some

useful conjecture as to what kind of

"cover-up" might be occurring.

Thanks for the stats,

that was real big help.

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From: Paul.Faeder@p0.f0.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Faeder)

Subject: Re: Omni Magazine - Special UFO issue

Date: 13 Dec 90 05:26:00 GMT

To: conncoll.bitnet!gateh@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM

To: gateh@conncoll.bitnet

>'the nets') in general and this case in particular. I have attempted to

>send a copy to Paul, but it bounced as it was too large. If appropriate,

>perhaps it should be posted in several parts for upload so as to be easy

>on the nets (moderator?).

Thanks for the offer Gregg (and thanks also to Scott Savage).

I would be interested in reading about 'the nets' as you put it. I assume you

mean e-mail networks such as FidoNet; perhaps ParaNet?

This discussion may be stretching the bounds of this conference. If you feel

likewise, then you can e-mail this article to:

Paul.Faeder@p0.F102.n268.Z1.Fidonet.org (I think this will work);

...otherwise perhaps you can post the more important aspects of the article.

I'm interested in their concern regarding the networks.

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This article has been forwarded to the Fido side for distribution over there.

(Cyro Lord - Moderator at hostsite.) And I have a copy here.

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From: vm1.yorku.ca!YSCS1296@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM

Subject: Media coverage

Date: 14 Dec 90 04:54:26 GMT

From: user

There seems to have been various bits of info floating around in the

media of particular interest to those interested in the MJ-12 scenario.

To keep things brief:

The book BEST EVIDENCE details support for theory that JFK was assassinated

from an order given by a high authority (supports Cooper's JFK stuff?)

INSIDE EDITION recently detailed an 'above top secret' memo that told of

China's secret supply of weapons (nuke warheads, etc) to the Iraq. This is

particular interesting given the file CARP.TXT and implications, and that

this file was toted around the nets prior to the Gulf situation.

And finally, there are really actually lots of bits of information here and

there in the papers, magazines and TV if one just keeps an eye out for them.

- Just my 2 bits worth -

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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)

Subject: Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit

Date: 12 Dec 90 16:32:00 GMT

> The physicist Auguste Meesen, Professor at

> the University of Louvain, has proposed an explanation for

> this failure. In certain conditions, infrared rays coming

> from an object have the ability to totally inhibit the

> chemical reaction that permits fixing an image on a

> negative.

>

> Q: Is this a theory?

>

> A: Not at all. It is a fact demonstrated by experiment

> that has been known for a long time, but nobody up to now

> has thought of it in connection with UFO photos.

These guys know not whereof they speak. But I think I know what

they're getting at.

We've all seen photos of what appear to be black ufos which the

witnesses say they saw as being shiny silver etc. Presumably the same

things fly at night too.

A photographic emulsion increases in density according to the

amount of exposure to light. At a point, density cannot increase and,

if exposure continues, emulsion response actually reverses.

Ansel Adams demonstrated this many years ago in a photo he calls, I

think, Black Sun. It depicts a black sun over a normal-appearing

landscape.

What happened is the the image of the sun reversed and lost density

down to clear film base while the rest of the landscape was normal.

Anyway, we know this happens with visible light. Most panchromatic

film is also very sensitive to IR, while color film tends to be

sensitive to UV, in addition to visible light.

Presumably the same effect would occur if an object were radiating

strong IR or UV. So, a shiny object (visually) radiating strong IR

could conceivable cause reversal of a photographic image of itself.

These 'black ufos' are pretty commonly photographed on panchromatic

black-and-white film. Has anyone seen a color photo of the same

effect?

Film responds to light by photons knocking loose atoms of silver

halide. In development, the silver halide which has lost atoms is

converted to metallic silver while the unexposed halide is not.

When the film is fixed, the remaining halide is washed away and the

metallic silver remains to form the image.

Color film works the same way, except that color dyes are coupled to

the silver image and then the silver is bleached away, leaving only

the dyes.

To put it simply, photochemistry doesn't work quite the way Meesen

states, but he does have a very valid point about IR radiation.

jbh

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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)

Subject: Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit Part 6

Date: 12 Dec 90 16:39:01 GMT

Very interesting interview.

jbh

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From: Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)

Subject: Phenomenon framed again!

Date: 13 Dec 90 06:38:44 GMT

Did we all get to take a break from reality Wednesday night, and capture the

outragous segment of NBC's "Unsolved Mysteries" on our VCRs? This time-filling

gem would have us wonder about the origin of some *mysterious lights* captured

on a woman's super-8 camera. It is reported that there are also random single

frames of film which show these lights giving off incredible <<of energy>>> which is the focus of the story.

Well...yours truly, Capt. Video (OK...film, video, whatever) is here to answer

this so-called mystery. Since there is no 'contest' or award for the correct

answer...I guess I am free to post my theory here for public consumption. In

fact...I am somewhat amazed this possibility hasn't been addressed (at least

not in the report) by their local investigators and experts. I agree with them

that the film was NOT a deliberate hoax by the photographer. I believe she is

just as ignorant of the cause...which I state here and now as a simple

MECHANICAL FAILURE of her filming apparatus!

Read on...

Addressing this to those that sat through the show...recall as they played back

the footage to show the individual frames which contained the -streaks of light

energy-. Notice how you can see the nightime sky or horizon with a few

non-descript white lights through most of the film. All of a sudden, there

appears a *SINGLE FRAME* of the super-8 film which contains the ballyhooed

light show. Immediately following the frame, the normal nightime footage

returns and a few seconds later...another streak-frame appears...totally

different in composition. The photographer would claim that she could not SEE

any such light display. It could ONLY be captured with HER camera. At the

rate of speed in which a single frame of super-8 film is exposed through a

camera...I would understand her statement!

Red Flag time, everyone.

What I propose is this: The woman's particular super-8 camera is faulty. In

simple terms, the motorized components stop operating at certain intervals. She

may *hear and feel* the motor turning, but in effect the film has

stopped _moving_ through the guides, sprockets and plates. In addition, the

camera's shutter gate is stuck OPEN and light is continuously pouring onto the

poor frame of exposed film which happens to be positioned in the exposure

window. The construction of the camera prevents light from reaching the other

frames before and after the affected frame in question. Soon after, the

camera's mechanics corrects itself and once again it is taking normal film

imagery. As the photographer continues to expose more footage through the lens,

the problem reoccurs a few seconds later due to the same mechanical defect and

the anomaly is repeated with different visual results.

So what is this brilliant streaking of light attributed to? Good question, but

unfortunately an easily explainable answer. In fact, anyone can reproduced the

same effect with a simple SLR 35mm or better camera! Just load up your film

and head for your neighborhood street lights at night. Set your exposure to

the BULB or TIME setting. Camera too new? Then you will have to play with the

longest (slowest) exposure setting your camera offers. Only have a point-and-

hoot model? Too bad. What are you doing in the research business with such

in inadequate gear in the first place?? :-)

Anyway...the trick is to make a time-laps exposure of distant city lights

WITHOUT a tri-pod. Hey...*she* doesn't use a tri-pod when filming and this is

the PRECISE reason she has those brilliant randomly streaking frames.

Leave the shutter in the OPEN position for a few seconds and *slowly* move the

camera around. Then close the shutter. Try different settings. By holding

the camera unsteadily in your hand and making jagged motions, you are in

essense becoming a graphic painter of light upon your film. This is what I

believe is actually being placed on her random individual frames of super-8

footage.

To further my explaination with one more point...recall that our good friend

Robert Stack reports that the show's own photographer tried to film the

phenomenon side by side with the woman. She, of course using her own super-8

camera and he using one of his own. They even *switched* cameras which each

other to see if there would be any difference. Naturally, there was none. Her

camera produced the usual single-frame light streaks...his did not. Now,

expecting that both cameras running the same format at the same rate of speed,

and taking the exact same footage of whatever lights she wanted to focus on...

why would HER camera be the only one 'blessed' with results? The normal

footage of nightime lights was similar between the two!

From this message, you can see that I am in no way impressed by any

'unexplained' claim of authenticity which is attached to this particular

segment of the TV show. Of course, the show admittingly reveals all its

footage to be dramatic re-enactments and no deception is implied. But they

did show the *actual* footage claimed to be shoot by this woman...and hence

the footage became open to debate and scrutiny. Consider this particular

story superificially debunked by my hypothesis and/or open for debate if one

cares to. I remain, C.V.

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From: Rick.Moen@f2.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Rick Moen)

Subject: Re: Al seckel

Date: 14 Dec 90 06:51:03 GMT

> And I knew Gauquelin was not a skeptic, I was referring to the

> "Gauquelin incident," which was, I think, a bit more significant than

> you imply. It is my understanding that the Mars Effect has never been

> successfully debunked (much to MY chagrin as much as anyone else's).

> Am I wrong in that understanding?

No. That's right. The problem was that Michel Gauquelin's legal

threats just made everyone drop the matter entirely. My impression is

(speaking as a newcomer and outsider, with just a math B.A.) that the

existing tests may have been statistically inadequate, or at least

questionable. There things will likely remain, which is a pity.

Best Regards,

Rick M.

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From: conncoll.bitnet!gateh@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM

Subject: Re: Prof. Jean-Pierre Petit

Date: 15 Dec 90 00:20:27 GMT

From: gateh@conncoll.bitnet

Jim Speiser writes:

+ For another, he seemed to talk in absolutes a great deal more than I am

+ comfortable hearing from a scientist. I will be interested in hearing

+ others' comments on this file.

I too felt more and more queasy as I read the interview. I thought the

initial parts were interesting and relatively level-headed, however what

started as (to paraphrase), 'there is strong evidence that the Belgium

sightings are not hoaxes, and further more that evidence would indicate that

the craft might not be of terrestrial origin', turned into 'the

extraterrestrials are using [some off-the-top-of-my-head theory about] folds

in the fabric of space dividing the two[!] universes to travel to earth,

which may or may not be an interstellar crossroads'. Yeek-a-mouse! This is

hardly a scientific approach, and regardless of whether or not the

theorizing holds any merit, it is entirely improper to be babbling openly

about it in the interview. I can't see him amassing much support for UFO

research from the scientific community with talk like this.

He may be a respected scientist, but then again so were Pons and Fleischmann

(sp?). He certainly hasn't garnered much respect from this reader.

Cheers! - Gregg

Gregg TeHennepe | SysAdm, Academic Computing | Yes, but this

gateh@conncoll.bitnet | Connecticut College, New London, CT | one goes to 11...

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From: Clark.Matthews@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)

Subject: Re: Phenomenon Framed Again!

Date: 15 Dec 90 00:49:00 GMT

Interesting post, Steve. Please consider a partial rebuttal from a former

filmmaker.

> the film was NOT a deliberate hoax by the

> photographer. I believe she is just as ignorant of the

> cause...which I state here and now as a simple MECHANICAL

> FAILURE of her filming apparatus!

> All of a sudden, there appears a *SINGLE FRAME* of the

> super-8 film which contains the ballyhooed light show.

Okay, I don't think the film was a deliberate hoax, either. But a simple

mechanical failure? Rather unlikely. Flash frames or static discharges

within a camera are not confined to single frames of film. The lady's

images are confined to single frames of film. Plus...

> What I propose is this: The woman's particular super-8

> camera is faulty. In simple terms, the motorized components

> stop operating at certain intervals.

... except she has obtained similar photographs with three different

cameras.

> In fact, anyone can reproduced the same effect

> with a simple SLR 35mm or better camera! Just load up your

You bet! Unfortunately, motion picture equipment rarely includes a lockable

shutter. Practically NO Super-8mm cameras do or did, the only exception I

am aware of is the old Bolex Super-8. Time-lapse or intervalometer

equipment can be added on to these cameras, but if that were the case

(she was using an intervalometer, say) then the HAND-HELD portions of the

film would have been impossible to film side-by-side with the gag shots.

Film equipment pretty much forces you to use a FIXED shutter speed, Steve.

Usually 1/48th of a second. Sometimes less, if you are using a nice 16mm

camera with a variable shutter, like an Eclair, Arri, Panaflex, etc. It's

simple -- for a movie to be a movie, it must have been photographed at a

fixed shutter speed. The only exception is the computer-controlled shutter

equipment of special effects cameras, like George Lucas uses at Industrial

Light and Magic.

What's really interesting is if you consider the possibility that the

lights/objects were performing complex maneuvers, in formation, and then

returning to their original positions -- in 1/24th of a SECOND! [1/48th

open shutter + 1/48th closed shutter = 1/24th second total shutter

interval.]

I suspect that you will feel this is a ridiculous and impossible

proposition, but an Australian TV news crew shot about 60 seconds of footage

of a UFO from a helicopter that showed just such incredible maneuvers. The

footage looks just like the Vancouver lady's, and points to maneuverability

and speed that is unheard-of, even in conventional UFO documentation [e.g.,

radar tracks at 5,800 mph, right-angle turns, etc.]

Equally interesting, the lady's footage shows interesting color shifts that

could correspond to time-shifted light radiation (i.e., a time-bending

mechanism at work, slowing down the local flow of time & allowing outlandish

maneuvers in 1/24th second) and regular blips of light along the "streaks"

(sort of like a time-lapsed ANO light on a airplane).

> Consider this particular story

> superificially debunked by my hypothesis and/or open for

> debate if one cares to. I remain, C.V.

Debunked? Not yet. Let's keep the key word "superficially". :-)

Best,

Clark

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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)

Subject: Phenomenon framed again!

Date: 14 Dec 90 20:48:00 GMT

Steve:

I agree with your assessment. The single-frame light show struck me as well.

Have you tried calling the UM 800 number?

Jim

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From: Jim.Delton@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Delton)

Subject: Re: Phenomenon framed again!

Date: 16 Dec 90 00:50:00 GMT

The "light streaks and overexposure" on single frames used to be common

knowledge back when 8mm amateur film was in it's heyday. I used to get

them all the time from not releasing the "button" quickly. It would

allow the shutter to stop in the open position and wipe out that frame.

I didn't see that particular Unsolved Mystery but from the way you

described it it doesn't sound like much of a mystery to me either. I

guess all the segments can't be winners.

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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)

Subject: Phenomenon framed again!

Date: 14 Dec 90 16:34:01 GMT

> Did we all get to take a break from reality Wednesday night, and

> capture the outragous segment of NBC's "Unsolved Mysteries" on

> our VCRs?

I think you've completely nailed that one.

I also wondered if that Super 8 camera has a single-frame mode we

didn't know about, but I think you're most likely right about the

mechanical problem. I suspect the film simply jumps the sprockets

every now and then.

An obvious test would be to have a second photographer there with a

*film* camera. I understood that the UM crew had a video camera, and

it's possible that if all that light activity took place in 1/30

second or less it could occur between video frames and not be seen by

the video camera. That's stretching it, of course.

A high-speed film camera would be even better.

Wanna have some fun? Hold your camera's shutter open for a few

seconds while you drive along a city main street. Talk about lights

and streaks!

jbh

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From: Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)

Subject: Re: Phenomenon framed again!

Date: 15 Dec 90 17:30:08 GMT

>> capture the outragous segment of NBC's "Unsolved Mysteries"

>

> I think you've completely nailed that one.

> I also wondered if that Super 8 camera has a single-frame

> mode we didn't know about, but I think you're most likely

> right about the mechanical problem.

While that was suggested here locally...it is pointed out that a single-frame

mode would NOT leave the shutter open long enough to capture the streaky

movement by her hands. The affected frame(s) would be no more or less exposed

that the rest of the footage...hence I believe not to be the cause.

> An obvious test would be to have a second photographer

> there with a *film* camera. I understood that the UM crew had a video

Perhaps, But I believe I heard Mr. Stack state that they used a camera of

'similar design'. If so...I suspect that he meant it was a film super-8. In

addition, remember that the raw segments of the show are shot on *film*...

albeit not 8 millimeter format. It could be possible that he used his stock

camera. We may never know.

> That's stretching it, of course.

> A high-speed film camera would be even better.

Somehow, I suspect the producers and technicians knew they had a dud there,

even if the show must go on...so why waste the test footage? :-)

> Wanna have some fun? Hold your camera's shutter open for a

> few seconds while you drive along a city main street. Talk

> about lights and streaks!

Here's another excercise...if you can leave the shutter open on your still

camera...aim it at a lampost at night and try to write your name by making

'script' movements of the letters holding the camera in the air. Fun.

Thank you and now...back to our show. :-)

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From: Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)

Subject: Re: Phenomenon framed again!

Date: 15 Dec 90 17:58:46 GMT

> She did say she used three cameras? I must have missed

> that; I'll have to look at the tape.

Ahhh, but gentlemen...in dealing in this arena as you know...one must separate

the feces from the bullfeces.

Realize that she only provided footage for examination from ONE film roll. It

is assumed that all the blown-up shots were taken from that roll. The

additional roll she shot while the crew was there also showed phenomenon

captured (according to Stack)...but with the SAME camera! At no time did she

produce any second or third camera for examination. For that matter, she

hasn't allowed the afflicted camera to be taken for tests, either!

Also remember...she was shooting mysterious *lights* from her balcony and was

not expecting any flashing phenomena. She may have owned other cameras

(amazing how they were ALL super-8, eh?) but she was not shooting to get these

flashes...only to capture some 'strange lights' which is a separate issue. It

was only AFTER the roll was developed that the frames and light "flashes" were

discovered. Please keep this in mind...she was NOT shooting to get the

fireworks originally...only some simple 'lights' she saw.

I suspect that she did NOT get any valid flashing display with her first two

units beyond the lights themselves. I believe when she started using the third

and current camera and the flashing frames were found (hopefully not

deliberately faked) she took it to mean a definate positive sign that she was

capturing unique communications of some sort and that her camera was privied

to them.

True, such mechanical defects are not common...but in my field of work with

video related matters, we all know to look at the gear first, when a problem in

operations occur that is not attributed to user error. Just by looking at the

presented frames in question...I can plainly see an answer that is not

attributable to 'communicating lights'. The show's producer wisely alerted the

viewers that they themselves could NOT duplicate the results with their own

gear. I believe them and am grateful for their candor.

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From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)

Subject: Roswell Witness Surfaces

Date: 17 Dec 90 09:11:00 GMT

Here is an article that was contributed by Sandy Barbre

regarding an article which appeared in a Springfield, MO

newspaper on December 9, 1990.

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CONTRIBUTED BY: Sandy Barbre

December 17, 1990

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The following was taken from a newspaper from Springfield, Missouri,

dated Sunday, December 9th, 1990. The name of the newspaper I think,

is the NEWS-LEADER and article is in the section called Ozarks Accent.

-+--------------

TITLED: NOTED EXPERT FINDS ACCOUNT CONVINCING.

BY: Mike O'Brien

What sets Gerald Anderson apart from the thousands of other

American's, including scores of Ozarkers, who say they've seen

UFO's or even insist they've been kidnapped by creatures from

outer space?

Why are Gerald Anderson's childhood recollections stirring

international interest among UFO researchers whose reputations

have been built on healthy skepticism and willingness to

debunk hoaxes?

Because of little things he has to say and how he says them.

Stanton Friedman, a nuclear physicist who has lectured on more

than 600 college campuses about UFOs, describes Anderson as "a

really significant, potentially the most important" witness to

what both men believe was the aftermath of one of two space

craft crashes in New Mexico in mid-summer 1947.

Friedman is co-authoring a book based upon several years of

painstaking investigation into the haunting mystery. He was

startled, upon meeting Anderson for the first time only a few

months ago, to hear the Springfieldian echo details of the yet

to be published research.

"There's no way he could know some of these things unless he

had been there at the time," Friedman believes.

Example: only days before first talking with Anderson,

Friedman coaxed a heretofore reluctant New Mexico mortician

into recounting a run-in he'd had in 1947 with an especially

unpleasant red-headed captain who was heading up a team

recovering bodies from a hush-hush aircraft crash. Anderson,

too, spoke of a red-headed captain with a mean disposition.

Friedman says the descriptions of the ornery officer provided

by the two match precisely, although Anderson and the mortician

never have met.

In sketches of the desert crash scene drawn by Anderson in

Springfield following a hypnosis, a lonely windmill appears in

the distance. When Friedman later arranged for Anderson to

return to New Mexico to pinpoint the long-ago crash site, no

such windmill could be see on the horizon-- until, almost by

accident, the windmill wa spotted behind tress that had grown

up during the 43 years since Anderson was last there.

"I got shivers over that one," says John Carpenter, who has

extensively debriefed Anderson over the past 4 months and went

along on Anderson's return trip to New Mexico in October.

Carpenter holds degrees in psychology and psychiatric social

work from DePauw and Washington universities and trained in

clinical hypnosis at the Menninger Institute. He's in his

12th year of work at a psychiatric hospital facility in

Springfield.

"When Gerald tells his story, it's not just a story -- it's

his life he's telling you, intermixed with his feelings and

his beliefs and all that is Gerald," Carpenter says.

"When someone is spinning a hoax or tale, they only give you

enough to raise your curiosity. Not Gerald. He gives you

everything, in detail, much more than you ask him for. He'd

be setting himself up to be found out if it wasn't true. He's

so confident, he goes so much further than a hoaxer would ever

dare."

Carpenter puts great stock in Anderson's recountings under

hypnosis. "It's what he didn't say that was significant."

Carpenter says, explaining that despite clever prodding,

Anderson never committed a hoaxer's mistake of "recalling"

something that shouldn't be a part of his own memory.

"And when he's under hypnosis, all the bigger, adult words

drop out when he describes events from his childhood,"

Carpenter found. "He relates what he was in child-like

terms."

Carpenter also detected "genuine amazement" when Anderson

heard what had been dredged from his subconscious memory under

hypnosis. "The look on his face was priceless when he realized

he'd produced details he'd forgotten on a conscious level so

long ago."

Most subtle but perhaps most telling, in Carpenter's view, was

Anderson's reaction to being accepted as a viable witness to

an extraordinary encounter with a spacecraft and creatures from

beyond Earth.

"He was so grateful at being taken seriously. You could see

the relief and release after all those years, and the great

hope that other people would take him seriously too, once and

for all."

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