Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 494
Monday, October 28th 1991
Today's Topics:
Spon. Human Combustion
BENTWATERS,UK
Dr. Fredrick Bell
Re: FOX Show
Re: Erol Torun/DMA
Re: Hello!
Re: ParaNet 9600 bps
Roswell
UFO shows
crop circles and SHC
nodes
Spon. Human Combustion
Re: Paranet 9600 Bps
Re: Paranet 9600 Bps
Angel
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From: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)
Subject: Spon. Human Combustion
Date: 24 Oct 91 11:14:00 GMT
Hi Sheldon. RE: Your post to Rob Trevelyan on SHC...
> In regards to your ball lightning question, a rather
> interesting case was reported last year at the 1990 Ball
> Lightning
> Conference, held in Budapest. The incident took place on
> May 25,
> 1989, in a field by the roadside near Kerecseud, a village
> 65 miles
> from Budapest. The victim was a 27 year old engineer WITHIN
> WHOSE
> BODY, it is conjectured, ball lightning formed. The man had
> stopped
> his car and walked to the edge of a field about 30 feet
> distant to
> urinate. Suddenly, his wife, who had remained behind in the
> car,
> saw that her husband was surrounded by a blue light. He
> opened his
> arms wide and fell to the ground. His wife ran to him,
> noticing
> that one of his tennis shoes had been torn off. Amazingly,
The very first thing that comes to mind here is whether
overloaded high-tension or low-tension wires were nearby. Since
this incident occurred at a roadside, nearby power lines may
well have been present.
If such lines are overloaded or badly insulated, fatal arcing
can occur FROM THE GROUND at a considerable distance from the
power lines. This has happened often in our country, in rural
areas where public utilities have quietly overloaded their
lines. The resulting discharges *can easily electrocute
livestock* over 1/4 mile from the "leaky" H/T lines. I bet that
Hungarian utility agencies are guilty of the same practice...
> At the autopsy, a hole was found in the man's heel where the
> shoe had been. The lungs were torn and damaged, and the stomach and
> belly were carbonized! This is indicative of internal combustion,
> just as the blue light is suggestive of atmospheric electricity,
> while the damaged heel and shoe are denotative of electrical
> grounding. No other effects of local atmospheric electricity were
> noticed. The sky was overcast and conditions possibly suitable for
> a thunderstorm. The couple had earlier passed through a
> thunderstorm when 35 miles away, but at the site of the tragedy it
> was dry and rainless. Do you feel this incident may help to explain
> the cases of so called "human spontaneous combustion"?
Personally, I suspect that this poor man was electrocuted thru
his own urine. The "ball lightning" witnessed by the victim's
wife may have been ST. ELMO's FIRE -- an ungrounded corona
around the victim in the damp, pre-thunderstorm conditions. The
hole in his heel and tennis shoe indicates where the current
finally grounded itself.
One of my uncles saw this happen to a young man in Eastern
Canada (PEI) in the early 1960s. The area was just being
electrified and the power lines must have been practically
smoking (in fact, there were near-catastrophic forest fires that
could have been cause by the things, now that I remember that
summer). Anyway, the victim had been working with several other
men in a field -- when they finished, they washed up at a
washbasin on an outdoor table, about 100 yards from the overhead
power line(s) beside the road. When the poor guy had washed up,
he emptied the basin on the ground and was electrocuted. As in
the Hungarian case, a hole was burned through the heel of his
boot. He lived for about 15 minutes, then died.
So Sheldon, the next time you drive past a pasture where the
cattle are all wearing those silly rubber boots -- don't stop to
relieve yourself.
Best,
Clark
PS -- Weird as all this is, genuine SHC is much, much weirder.
The Mary Reeser case is so bizarre as to be beyond belief. She
was INCINERATED in a chair, and so was a perfect circle of the
floor that the chair was on. Coroner estimated temps of 3000 degrees
plus. Almost NO OTHER DAMAGE to the room or the house, and
there was NO FIRE.
I have a couple of text files on this: SHC1.ZIP and SHC2.ZIP,
from KeelyNet
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From: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)
Subject: BENTWATERS,UK
Date: 24 Oct 91 11:19:00 GMT
> The Cash/Landrum incident update was very interesting,
> since the two of them had physical reactions to something.
You bet. They're not the only ones, either. Vallee in
Confrontations goes into considerable detail about UFO "sunburn".
The Brazilian cases he described were so bizarre, however, that
nuclear radiation alone does not seem to account for some of
them.
One horrible case resembled high-speed leprosy -- the victim
literally disintegrated within two days. It was painless but he
was conscious until very close to his death.
Yeccchhh...
Clark
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From: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)
Subject: Dr. Fredrick Bell
Date: 24 Oct 91 11:24:00 GMT
> Thanks for that info. I am curious...do you know what is a
> smallest mass required to support self-sustaining fusion.
> Supposing there was a planet large enough to support self-
> sustaining fusion, how would that fusion start?
Good question, and I don't know. I do know that Jupiter is so
massive that its core should be hypothetically composed of solid
hydrogen -- a form of H2 that we cannot synthesize here on earth.
Perhaps there is a "critical mass" of solid H2 needed to get a
star going??
I don't know, though. Maybe someone else here? (Jim Graham???)
Best,
Clark
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From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler)
Subject: Re: FOX Show
Date: 23 Oct 91 05:19:00 GMT
In a message to All <10-18-91 21:18> Jim Speiser wrote:
JS> Well, that sure stunk.
I agree. It's sad, isn't it?
JS> Disinformation Suspect #1. Didn't anyone tell them there IS no
JS> Department of Naval Intelligence? Vicki and Don, did these guys come
Well, okay. But there is an NIS: Naval Investigative Service. Doesn't prove
a thing, just wondered if some names had gotten mixed up. I know there's an
NIS cause they got me once--a long, long time ago (in a galaxy far away)
--Michael
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From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler)
Subject: Re: Erol Torun/DMA
Date: 23 Oct 91 05:25:00 GMT
In a message to Clark Matthews <10-14-91 13:27> Steve Rose wrote:
SR>
SR> Or just look at the particulars of those ramrodded 'Anti-Crime' bills
SR> which will make your 'liberties' looked like Germany of the '30s. :(
SR>
SR>
SR> ...Why blame Spooks? They just follow orders.
SR>
Isn't that what Adolph Eichmann said?
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From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler)
Subject: Re: Hello!
Date: 23 Oct 91 05:28:00 GMT
In a message to All <10-21-91 23:55> Jim Dritsas wrote:
JD> Hello there everyone! I am a new user here, and I would just like to
JD> introduce myself! I am calling a little north of the border, from
JD> Toronto, Ontario (CANADA). Anyways, I'm glad to be a member, it
JD> looks like a spectacular system.
Happy to have you. I wonder if you have any thoughts about our subject from
a Canadian perspective? Is there any twist on UFOs or particularly
compelling sighting reports you might know about that we might not get quite
as easily 'down here?'
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From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler)
Subject: Re: ParaNet 9600 bps
Date: 23 Oct 91 05:29:00 GMT
In a message to All <10-22-91 20:57> Sheldon Wernikoff wrote:
SW>
SW> Are there any ParaNet nodes running
SW> @ 9600 bps v.32, v.42, v.42bis?
You bet. HST/Dual here. I'm sure there are several others
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From: cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com!vanth!jms
Subject: Roswell
Date: 25 Oct 91 07:41:56 GMT
From: vanth!jms@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)
To: Steve Musselwhite
+I am new to Paranet, but I have found nothing in this section about
+Roswell, the most dramatic example of what is happening and the most
+dramatic example of the government (almost) screwing up. What am I
+missing?
We can't discuss all of the subjects all of the time. Have you seen Randle
& Schmidt's book yet? I had to order it through the mail because I never
saw any copies at the local Waldenbooks. Silly me, I thought that book
might get the public's attention and shake out some of the apathy, but it's
not going to get their attention if they don't know it exists!
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From: cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com!vanth!jms
Subject: UFO shows
Date: 25 Oct 91 07:42:10 GMT
From: vanth!jms@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)
Sheldon Wernikoff writes:
+NEW TELEVISED UFO ABDUCTION ACCOUNT
+___________________________________
+
+BROADCAST DATE: Friday, 27-Oct-91
+BROADCAST TIME: 9:00 P.M. (EST)
+NETWORK: USA (cable)
+PROGRAM TITLE: 'Beyond Reality'
+STARRING: Shari Belafonte
+
+DETAILS: 'Ten years ago, Jenny Lambert's
+mother was abducted by a UFO.
+Now, they're back.'
+
+COMMENTS: Don't expect too much, folks
You mean this 'Beyond Reality' thing (what a stupid title!) is a series? I
saw an episode on psychic healing or some such thing (I taped it, but
haven't watched it yet) advertised for last Friday, but I didn't know it
was going to be a series. Does anyone know what else they have in store
for us?
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From: cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com!vanth!jms
Subject: crop circles and SHC
Date: 25 Oct 91 07:42:25 GMT
From: vanth!jms@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)
Robert Trevelyan writes:
+Does any one have any information on human spontaneous combustion?
+I have just heard the UK BUFORA message number 98 in which Jenny Randles
+likens the the energy of such strange events to the energy which is
+associated with the creation of crop circles. She even asked if anyone
+has any information on spontaneous combustion to contact BUFORA.
+I am very interested in this as Jenny Randles has always seemed to have
+been in the plasma vortex camp, is this a change of heart.
Jerry Decker at KeelyNet says that there are some theories that nuclear
reactions take place within cells. His own thinking on SHC is that it
might be caused by these nuclear reactions going out of control due to an
imbalance in body chemistry.
There's also the Allende story about SHC caused by interference with the
body's electromagnetic (or ???) field by an external field. (If Allende
didn't make the whole thing up like he once said he did.)
I'm puzzled as to what this has to do with crop circles, though. Certainly
there seems to be heat involved, but there's already the plasma vortex
theory and even the orbital maser testing theory that could explain that.
There is the odd matter of the radioisotopes described in Sheldon's recent
message, however. I'll have to ask Jerry if he can dig up any details on
the 'biological transmutation' (as it's called) theories. (Then there's
the question of what, other than hoaxes, produces such fancy patterns.
Have any of the fancy patterns been proven to be anything other than
hoaxes? If they have, it looks like we're stuck with either the alien
intelligence theory or the maser testing.)
A final note on plants and mysterious energy: I'm pretty sure I read
somewhere that Wilhelm Reich's orgone accumulator design was inspired by
the cell walls of plants. The orgone accumulator boxes would always be
warmer on the inside than on the outside for no apparent reason. If plant
cells, like the orgone boxes, are transducers for some sort of energy
field, what would happen if they were exposed to a much higher than normal
level of that energy? (I'm not going to pretend to have any ideas on what
would cause such a field!)
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From: cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com!vanth!jms
Subject: nodes
Date: 25 Oct 91 07:42:47 GMT
From: vanth!jms@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)
Jim Dritsas writes:
+Hello there everyone! I am a new user here, and I would just like to
+introduce myself! I am calling a little north of the border, from Toronto,
+Ontario (CANADA). Anyways, I'm glad to be a member, it looks like a
+spectacular system.
+
+ Well, now the only thing that would be nice was if I lived in Colarado, so
+I didn't have to pay any long distance charges!
There ought to be a node closer to you than Colorado. (Although there
don't seem to be any Canadian nodes.) Here's the last list I found, I hope
it's fairly recent.
LIST OF PARANET INTERNATIONAL NODES
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ParaNet Information Service
Headquarters
Michael Corbin, Administrator
P.O. Box 928
Wheatridge, Colorado 80034-0928
FidoNet Address: 1:310/8
ParaNet Private Address: 9:9/0
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Don Ecker, Network Security 30163/0
Bob Fletcher, Bureau Chief/Australian Bureau 30163/401
Doug Rogers, Echo Moderator 30163/3
Paul Faeder, Network Development/Coordinator 30163/203
John Burke, ParaNet Legal Counsel 9:9/800
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Please direct all inquiries to Alpha at 1:310/8 or 9:9/0
AUSTRALIA
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OMEGA-ALPHA Kingsbury Vic , Australia 011-61-3-467-7984 9600
30163/401 Bob Fletcher Bureau Chief
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OMEGA-BETA Mentone, Victoria, Australia 011-61-3-583-4778 2400
30163/402 John Marsden
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OMEGA-GAMMA Launceston, Tasmania, Australia 011-61-3-44-9762 2400
30163/403 Roy Austen
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OMEGA-DELTA Chippendale, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
30163/404 Lance Lyon 011-61-2-319-1793 2400
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OMEGA-EPSILON Milton, Victoria **Temporarily Out of Service**
30163/405 Darren Moore
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OMEGA-ZETA Melba, A.C.T., Australia 011-61-62-587-160 2400
30163/406 Scott Furry
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OMEGA-THETA Dalkeith, Western Australia 011-61-9-386-2405 2400
30163/408 Andrew Milner
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OMEGA-ETA Lane Cove, New South Wales 011-002-428-2446 2400
30163/407 Grame Thompson
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OMEGA-IOTA Kendall, New South Wales 011-065-59-4537 9600
30163/409 John Caine
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OMEGA-KAPPA Blacktown, New South Wales 011-61-2-622-9591 2400
30163/410 Robert Jones
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OMEGA-LAMBDA Redfern, New South Wales 011-61-2-319-0925 2400
30163/411 Jodi Jackson
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OMEGA-MU Footscray, Victoria **Private System**
30163/412 Ken Hayes
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OMEGA-NU Ferntree, Gully, Australia 011-61-3-758-9573 2400
30163/413 Lincoln Broomhall
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ALPHA Cheyenne, WY Michael Corbin 307-632-0352 9600
30163/0 Headquarters Node
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ALPHA-BETA Cedar Rapids, IA Peter Elliff 319-377-0134 9600
30163/14 Open Cluster
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ALPHA-CENTAURI San Francisco, CA Rick Moen 415-648-8944 2400
30163/25 The Skeptic's Board
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ALPHA-GAMMA Bloomington , IN Jim Graham 812-334-0418 2400
Portal Dolmen BBS **Local System**
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ALPHA-DELTA Los Angeles, CA Don Ecker **Private System**
30163/22
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ALPHA-EPSILON Alexandria, VA Steve Rose 703-823-6591 2400
30163/26 ABySS BBS
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ALPHA-ZETA Sacramento, CA Boyd Naron 916-427-0324 9600
The City Lights
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ALPHA-MU Sacramento, CA Dan Brown 916-446-7286 2400
Gates of Delirium
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ALPHA-IOTA
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ALPHA-KAPPA Pittsburgh, PA Chuck Ammon 412-264-2692 9600
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ALPHA-MU El Cajon , CA Don Orchard 619-440-6038 2400
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ALPHA-NU Gilbert , AZ Frank Ward 602-892-1853 2400
The Encounter BBS
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GAMMA Lexington , KY Doug Rogers 606-271-0558 2400
30163/3
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DELTA Saskatoon , Saskatchewan 306-934-2919 9600
30163/4 Canada John Bowden
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EPSILON Warren , MI Jacques Leclerc 313-751-4057 2400
30163/5
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ZETA Bethany Park , IN Terry Fields 317-831-1827 2400
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NU-ALPHA
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NU-BETA
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NU-GAMMA Cape Coral , FL Bill Stewart **Out of Service*
Nite Connections
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NU-DELTA Orlando , FL John Hicks 407-649-4136 9600
30163/29 Gourmet Delight
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NU-EPSILON Altamonte Spgs, FL Gale Thompson 407-628-2018 2400
30163/35 The Business
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XI-ALPHA Milwaukee , WI Pete Porro 414-352-6176 9600
30163/206 Radio Free Milwaukee
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XI-BETA San Leandro , CA Cheryl Mathison 415-481-2806 2400
Yellow Submarine
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XI-GAMMA Luther , OK Rod Wilson 405-277-3603 2400
30163/204 Paraclypse III
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OMICRON Bushkill , PA Paul Faeder 717-588-7549 9600
30163/203
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PI Jersey City , NJ Clark Matthews 201-451-3063 2400
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RHO Chicago , IL Jerry Ablan 312-876-3652 1200
30163/13
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RHO-BETA Ingleside , IL Jerry Callahan 312-740-2072 9600
30163/23
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TAU-BETA Columbia , MO Brian Clark 314-442-0779 2400
Thrift University BBS
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TAU-GAMMA Chattanooga , TN John I. Finney 615-265-2629 9600
30163/34 The Old Folks Home
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TAU-CETI Chicago , IL John Burke **PRIVATE SYSTEM**
ParaNet Legal Counsel
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CHI Nashua , NH Ralph Schwarz 603-888-3840 9600
30163/2 The Outpost BBS
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CHI-BETA Burlington , VT James Pallack 802-860-1875 9600
30163/37 We Serve Your Drives
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ZETA-RETICULI Phoenix , AZ Jim Speiser 602-951-3431 9600
30163/20 USOP BBS
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SIGMA-ALPHA Berlin , Germany Andre' Eichner 011-49-30-791-9269
30163/303 9600
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SIGMA-BETA Darmstadt , Germany Hendrik Bohm 011-49-6257-7966
30163/304 2400
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SIGMA-GAMMA Berlin , Germany Detlef Deutzer 011-30-624-98-32
30163/305 2400
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SIGMA-DELTA Hannover , Germany Ernst Elbe 011-49-511-392274
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From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff)
Subject: Spon. Human Combustion
Date: 26 Oct 91 04:21:00 GMT
Hello Clark,
Thanks for your reply and comments on the Hungarian ball lightning
case. I certainly agree with your hypothesis that "leaky"
power lines could have been the culprit in this situation, IF they
were present. I'll check that aspect out with the author in England
and get back to you.
The reason I brought this case up is that one of the main theories
advanced in the past, although without adequate proof, has been that
ball lightning somehow intruded into the room of the SHC victim.
For further information, this case was investigated by ball-lightning
expert Dr. George Egely of the Central Institute of Physics, Budapest
and was reported at the Second Ball Lightning Conference held in
Budapest in June 1990.
Amazingly, there are still many physicists who insist that ball
lightning can not exist, despite many eye-witness reports, and a
few photographs.
Like you said Clark, for safety's sake, when outdoors in inclement weather,
be sure to urinate _only_ into a well insulated, properly grounded receptacle.
Take care,
Sheldon
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From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff)
Subject: Re: Paranet 9600 Bps
Date: 26 Oct 91 04:22:00 GMT
Hi Mike,
Thanks for letting me know that you're running 9600 v.32 up there.
Actually, you are the only node I know of so far that's dual.
Mind if I check in to capture the message base? These LD charges
are killing me at 2400.
BTW, can you tell me anything about Aileen Edwards-Bringle and her
contactee group? Any thoughts/comments would be greatly a
appreciated.
Thanks much,
Sheldon
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From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler)
Subject: Re: Paranet 9600 Bps
Date: 26 Oct 91 05:46:00 GMT
In a message to Michael Schuyler <10-25-91 21:22> Sheldon Wernikoff wrote:
SW> Actually, you are the only node I know of so far that's dual.
SW> Mind if I check in to capture the message base? These LD charges
SW> are killing me at 2400.
Sure, you're welcome to call. Justget on and off the first time so I can
upgrade you quickly. I'll do it right away, but that way you can establish
your pw. I don't have an offline mail reader yet, so it's klutzy!
SW>
SW> BTW, can you tell me anything about Aileen Edwards-Bringle and her
SW> contactee group? Any thoughts/comments would be greatly a
SW> appreciated.
I talked to Aileen a few weeks ago and subscribed to her Journal. Let's see
if I can describe the group succinctly....Definitely contactee and New Age,
with a belief in channeled material. The Journal is called "The Missing
Link" and is largely full of reprints, mostly sort-of UFO-related, but
rarely with attribution. I'm sure some of this thing violates copyright,
Physically it looks pretty bad with many typefaces and poor reproduction.
Here's a list of articles in a recent issue:
"Essassani; the Living Light Center," by Aileen, about Bashar, the channeled
entity, who is telling the group to establish Cities of Light across the
country.
"Express the Essence" a poem about light.
"UFO's, Et's and you," by Tom Dongo, about Bigfoot
"Possible Relation Review," by Darush Bagheri, about parallels in the Koran
which might be UFO sightings,
"Two Men in a Little Green Suit" about Bob Dean, a UFO enthusiast who was
denied a promotion in an EMT facility and is now suing (newspaper reprint)
"Roswell Alien Photo or Just another Hoax?" Focus reprint.
"I met and Flew with UFO Aliens," about Billy Meier, a newspaper reprint
"The Abduction of Sammy Desmond," by D. Scot Rogo, reprint from CUFOS from
1987.
"UFO and AAD," by Oleg Moroz, account of USSR Air Defense Forces encounters
with UFOs. Looks like a repirint.
"Without a Name," by Bob Anthony, on how not having names is a good idea.
Look, I know I haven't done this justice cause it's a quick note, but I hope
you can get a feel for the publication, and therefore the organization from
this short sketch. Please permit me to congratulate myself for the
incredible restraint I have exhibited with this post. ;-)
--Michael
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From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield)
Subject: Angel
Date: 25 Oct 91 03:46:00 GMT
An associate asked me the other day to see if anyone can chase a
reference in the bible for him. He was reading Strieber's
"Transformation" page 109 about a memory of someone dropping "three
drops of a clear liquid..onto my tounge." My associate has a
recollection of there being a biblical reference to an "angel of
revelation" "shall touch the elected three times on the forehead." Can
anyone help with the source of this biblical reference (if it is in
fact from the bible.)?
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