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There are 24 messages totalling 954 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

1. Tesla's HAARP (2)
2. Sightings
3. UFOs: Let me explain a few things... (2)
4. Montauk Project
5. ET spacecraft sighting??
6. Help with Aurora subject (2)
7. Aurora--"Senior Citizen" (2)
8. french author
9. Mack's acts
10. SETI - ET Search Begins
11. SETI Question
12. Dr. Mack and Harvard U. (2)
13. X-Files True or False?
14. Art Bell's Dreamland
15. NC Sighting Areas
16. Physics books
17. UFOS: MY SIGHTING.
18. Lightworkers - dollar/gold
19. UFOs: Any resistance at all?
20. INVASION!!!

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 15:47:54 -0500
From: Density 4
Subject: Tesla's HAARP (2)

[Continued from 1]

::: Earthquake Engineering Project :::

In a February, 1912 interview, in the publication, "The World Today"
Nikola Tesla said that it would be possible to split the planet by
combining vibrations with the correct resonance of the earth itself:

"Within a few weeks, I could set the earth's crust into such a state
of vibrations that it would rise and fall hundreds of feet, throwing
rivers out of their beds, wrecking buildings and practically
de one side, as if by a fireball."

These electrical effects are tied to electromagnetic plasma and ball
lightning and the strange array of flashes which results from Tesla-
style and HAARP-like transmissions. As part of the secret 1974
Vladivostok US-Soviet artificial global-warming agreement, the US
began 30 Hz ELF transmissions from a site in the Pacific northwest
in Washington. Coincidentally with the increase in Soviet and US ELF
transmissions during 1980, was a sharp increase in earthquakes
around the world. The 1/30/81 Washington Post reported: "The world
sustained 71 significant earthquakes during 1980, up from 56 the
previous year, anf the world death toll climbed to 7140, 5 times the
1979 figure, the USGS said."

On September 12, 1989, sensors called magnetometers, (at Corralitos,
near Monterrey Bay, California) detected unusual ULF (between 0.01
Hz and 10 Hz-- the lowest ELF frequencies) radio signals, "which
grew 30 times stronger October 5, and then weakened somewhat. At
2:00pm on October 17, the signals grew so strong that they went off
of the sensor's scales. Three hours later, the San Francisco Bay
area shook violently as the magnitude 7.1 Loma Prieta earthquake
killed more than 60 people and injured 3800 others. The
catastrophic January 17, 1994 Los Angeles earthquake was also
preceded by musterious radio signals. Some observers in Los Angeles
reported hearing two loud "sonic booms" (which are typical symptoms
of Soviet Tesla weapons usage) immediately before the earthquake.

That strange underground hum in the western US beginning to make a
little more sense now?

Typical earthquakes occur no deeper than 20 to 25 kilometers. A
very rare deep quake just took place. The 6/18/94 Science News
reported that on June 8th, "a magnitude 8.2 quake emanated from 600
kilometers below Bolivia, punching the planet hard enough to send it
ringing like a bell.The quake was felt in much of North America,
even as far away as Seattle- a fact that has puzzled geophysicists.
'This is the first time we know of that a quake in that part of
South America was felt in North America,' says Bruce W. Presgrave of
the National Earthquake Information Center."


::: A Grave Danger to Earth :::

Demonstrating the grave danger to this planet's geomagnetic
stability, the 1987 Eastlund patent (which is the basic design for
the HAARP project) stated that "The earth's magnetic field could be
decreased or disrupted at appropriate altitudes to modify or
eliminate the magnetic field."

Quoting the 3/88 OMNI Magazine article, "Richard Williams, a
physicist at Princeton, stated that he thinks the Eastlund (HAARP)
project might become 'a serious threat to the earth's atmosphere'
and 'could cause irreversible damage...effects in the atmosphere
cannot be localized...the language of the patent indicates that it
is clearly intended to provide effects on a global scale."

Quoting the 2/94 Cook Inlet Monthly Bush Blade, "The late
geomagnetic researcher Lloyd Zirbesstrongly opposed the technology
utilized in the HAARP system. He wrote, 'Disruption of the earth's
magnetic field will complete damages to the planet's balance done by
the government nuclear bomb blasts in the natural radiation belts
above the ionosphere. Earth's magnetic field keeps the planet in
balance with the moon and sun. Disrupting the field will be the
last straw in sending earth into the sun or out into space."

The combined effects of these transmitters, including the Russian
Woodpecker, the new HAARP system, together with all the other ELF
and VLF systems (such as those in Michigan and the GWEN towers), are
very dangerous. When operating simultaneously and during times of
geomagnetic storms, they present a severe threat to the entire
planet.

The disruption of the earth's internal dynamo, and the disrup other ionosphere-heating ELF, long
wire ELF and GWEN tower systems was demonstrated in T.E. Beardon's
book, "Fer-de-Lance":

"Any large collection of nuclei-- such as a star or a planet-- is a
strong absorber and radiator od scalar wave radiation. The Sun is a
particularly strong source of scalar wave radiation. This radiation
penetrates the earth deeply, interacting more and more with the
deeper layers, which under greater mechanical stress are more
nonlinear. Most of the heat in the molten core of the earth comes
from the dephasing of a portion of this absorbed scalar radiation
from the Sun, liberating ordinary electromagnetic energy as heat.

"The Earth also re-radiates scalar wave radiation back to the Sun.
The Sun and the Earth are thus coupled into a scalar system in
equilibrium or near-equilibrium. Each body in the couplet posesses
both a feedforward and a feedback loop."

Describing large electromagnetic weapons (such as Woodpecker and
HAARP-like systems), Bearden said:

"If significant scalar effects are produced on Earth in a 'pulse'
mode, pulsed disturbances of the Earth-Sun and Earth-Moon systems
result. Here a danger exists that one or more natural resonances of
the coupled systems may be excited. If too much or sharp
stimulation occurs on Earth, the coupled resonant response from the
Sun could be disasterous. The simplest Doomsday simulation would be
for a violent expulsion of solar electromagnetic energy and
particles to occur. If this were due to resonance, the expulsions
of solar electromagnetic energy and particles would continue during
some decay time. In that case, the fiery destruction of the Earth,
strongly indicative of Biblical prophecy, would result. Particularly
sensitive are the resonances of Sun-Earth, Sun-Moon and Earth-Moon
systems.

"Note the abnormal influence of the Moon on tides-- tides of both
the Earth's tectonic plates and oceans. If the Earth-Moon resonant
system were overstimulated, one might expect VIOLENT earthquakes of
extraordinary magnitude, and tremendous tidal waves hundreds of feet
in heights. (The potential connections to legends of earth-
destroying floods, scientific evidence of extreme water levels in
mountains, and legends of ancient catyclysmic destruction of
supposedly advanced technological oceanic cultures is obvious).
[Atlantis]

"Use of huge scalar electromagnetic weapons" (including US devices
which interfere with God-given protective Van Allen and other
external magnetic belts) "is a double-edged sword. Unless carefully
employed, use of the weapons could cause a terrible backlash to the
user" (as the Soviets discovered when the main power source for the
Gomel Woodpecker transmitter at Chernobyl exploded in 1986), "as
well as the victim, and even cause the destruction of Earth itself.

"With scalar electromagnetic weapons, the consequence of a
relatively simple electronic failure can be catastrophic; not only
for the local nation but for the earth as a whole. If an
electrogravitational pulse discharge happens to tickle the Sun's and
Moon's [natural scalar electromagnetic] feedback loops the wrong
way, you'll get convulsions on the earth, and a violent increase in
the interior heat of the Earth's molten core, with a concomittant
eruption of that core right up through the Earth's mantle."

Lordy, all this and we haven't even TOUCHED on ELF mind-control
systems...

-D4
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For further research, please consult the following sources:

Fer-de-Lance by T.E. Beardon
Tesla Book Company
P.O. Box 121873
Chula Vista, CA 91912 USA

Leading Edge Research Group
(Leading Edge Journal #77 12/94)
P.O. Box 7530 Ste 58
Yelm, Washington 98597 USA

Youth Action News (July 1994 issue)
"Electronic End Times GMT
From: Mike Horne
Subject: ET spacecraft sighting??

Heres the closest Ive ever come to seeing a 'UFO' if you will.
Maybe someone can tell me what it was.

I was outside on the porch one night and was looking up at the
night sky. I just happened to be looking at a paticular star, when
all of a sudden it bolted over the horizon. It looked exactly
the same as a star with the naked eye. I was looking at it for
about 5-10 seconds before it took off to the horizon at
a speed faster than any jet. It looked like a meteor when it took off.
But meteors dont just hang there for 10 seconds and then decide to take off
over the horizon. The 'star' that I was looking at wasnt there after it
left by the way, excluding an asteroid falling coincidentally at the
precise point I was looking at. The object was completely stationary
untill it left. No jet could have took off that fast either.

Well?
I can come up with a couple of cheap explanations but all sound pretty
stupid when you put them up against any kind of scrutiny.
Sorry, my watch didnt change time on me or anything,,,,,,,,,,,,,



Me debunk an Amercian myth?
And take my life in my hands.

-Hip

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 15:37:34 GMT
From: Matt Astier
Subject: Help with Aurora subject

Can anyone give me as much in depth information on this "secret"
as they can?

I've tried to find the Testor's model but haven't located it yet, so I
can't find out what they have to say about it.

What is supposed to be special about this plane? Is it supposed to have a
unique drive system? Why has it been connected up with the UFO subject
area?

Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Please E-mail me, or post here if you want.


Matt

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 21:49:06 GMT
From: Illya Kuryakin
Subject: Re: Aurora--"Senior Citizen"

In article <3jjgc8$dm3@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, exclmid@aol.com (ExclMid) wrote:

> I believe Charles Veith mentioned something that noone else in this thread
> referred to, which was that Aurora was code-named "Senior Citizen" I
> confirm that from another source and also would like to point out that the
> SR-71 was also mentioned (in another posting) as having the code name
> "Senior Crown" (among others.)
IMHO

Ah, Senior Citizen is something unrelated.

Senior Smart might be the one you're searching for.

Aurora has been described as the money paid to Lockheed for development
of it's version of the B-2. That's from Ben Rich's book. Unfoooorrrtunately,
the 'Aurora' line item in the '85 budget was stuffed between the SR-71 and
the U-2. That tells _me_ that it's a recon system, not a bomber. Duh, who'd
have guessed? My theory is that Northrop built a partial scale flying testbed.
For the B-2. Like they did with the N1M and N9M. The USAF said "Damn, we
could use a few more of those... "

That would also be borne out by the fact that the USAF bought enough
engines and ejection seats to build 48 more twin-engined a/c. That stems
from the standard case where they order 106% of the components they need
for the total number of a/c. If you apply the 106% to the total number of
engines and seats...
you get 48 more a/c than they're talking about in the F-117.

Sooooo... The TR-3A might well be flying in larger numbers than thought.

I always wondered why some of the target shots of Teheran didn't seem to
display any obvious movement. Sure, some showed the target and the aspect
of the target was continuously changing. Some... were as if the camera
was just hovering over the target. You could get that effect by hovering
at low altitude or cruising slowly at high altitude.

Tie that in with the sighti ship.


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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 18:52:21 -0500
From: Cgbg
Subject: Re: Mack's acts

>Unprofessional Acts

The problem with claiming that Dr. Mack's unprofessional acts
got him in trouble at Harvard is simply that he is not accused of
lack of scientific method. He is accused of stating opinions
contrary to "proven scientific fact". That is why the Harvard
faculty can be correctly accused of a witch hunt. If they
disagree with specific actions of Dr. Mack let the Harvard
faculty committee identify names, dates, places, make their
critique, and give Dr. Mack an opportunity to address specific
incidents. I would not want the Harvard faculty or a
hundred random names in the telephone book determining what is
"scientific fact", particularly when those "facts" change as
new information is gathered. We are talking witchhunt here,
pure and simple.

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 23:58:11 GMT
From: Garry Bryan
Subject: Re: SETI - ET Search Begins

Dean Adams (dadams@netcom.com) wrote:

: In article <3ji4k4$p5e@canyon.sr.hp.com> garry@sr.hp.com (Garry Bryan)
writes:
: >using your posting style and "logic" sure pushes YOUR button. . .

: Ha! What a cop out. But of course back here in the real world
: your "logic" (or more accurately: LACK thereof) was all your own.

Notice, class, that Dean has just pointed out that his logic is imaginary. I
mimiced Deans style and "logic" and he misinterprets it as mine. (Forgive him,
he is prone to reading his own views into posts) And please, Dean, don't just
clip out the parts that you need to twist someones views, be a man and post the
entire context. OK?

Garry (%^{>

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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 00:04:22 GMT
From: Garry Bryan
Subject: SETI Question

I have a question involving the highly questionable SETI project. For
arguements
sake, I'll agree that it MAY be possible to pick a signal out of the background
noise of the cosmos (more like an infinite number of monkeys on an infinite
number of keyboards writting the Bible) and find an intelligent pattern. What
modulation index are "we" looking for? AM? FM? PM? BPSK? QPSK? 256PSK? If the
chances are small to find a signal, it's just gotten 6 times smaller. Any
comments?

Garry (%^{>

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WGNS Murf are none. Many inlisted men go through so much
training and are baptized to loyaly protect this great land of ours. So if
1 hot-shot general comes in and says" O.k., men, go overthrough the
government and piss on the constitution", Do you think they will Obey him?
I am not talking about an super-elete "Delta Force". I am talking about
the U.S. army, air force and Marines. A Revolt would be impossable without
these groups, and no other army could mount a successful attack in these
days of ICBM's and steath fighters.

------> One more thing, "Delta Force" is already a name of a U.S. Special
forces unit ( I'm not getting this form the movie ). I was waching CNN
news a few days ago when the U.S. was helping evacuate U.N. peacekeepers
in somalia, It described the battle that ended U.S. envolvement in
Somolia. It said " U.S. Rangers and Delta force commandos fought Somalian
warlords for the longest urban battle since the Vietnam war" In THOSE
EXACT WORDS, so go shove all your cheezy star-trekkish New world order
crap up your %*#!!

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 20:36:23 -0600
From: "Richard A. Schumacher"
Subject: Re: UFOs: Any resistance at all?

Class? "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".

That situation is hopeless. People are stunningly bad observers
of things that they're not familiar with, and/or when they have
been startled. Consider all the vivid and detailed UFO sightings
reported whenever Venus returns to the sky. Unless you have
excellent photographic or other physical
evidence of your sightings, you're not going to be able to
convince anyyone. I'm sure all those involved are nice people,
absolutely sincere and believe they clearly remember what they
saw. Does that mean that they *did* accurately interpret and
memorize what they observed? No, it does not.

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 21:27:06 -0500
From: Pedro1111
Subject: Re: Aurora--"Senior Citizen"

Unless it effects our own safty, we should keep our noses out of top
secret goverment progects. There is aviation technology that excisted in
the 50's that has been not been declassified because other nations do not
yet havr this technology.

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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 22:14:00 -0500
From: SHEPPARD GORDON
Subject: INVASION!!!

In a message dated 03/09/95, GARY STOLLMAN wrote:

GS> The CIA is still trying to destroy my family with clones, at least my
GS> father and mother, who is still crippled from a stroke in 1991. My
GS> phone is tapped and makes a funny reverberating sound from the modem
GS> when I log on here

Please Gary, protect your safety and stay away from this conference!


Salut!

-> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Eval:05Nov94
Origin: Moderator hypocricy is VERY VERY SORRY.

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