Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.sci.physics.new-theories
Subject: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Date: 4 Jan 94 01:17:07 GMT
High voltage sources: Try an Van De Graaf generator, or you might be able
to get the needed voltages from a bunch of transformers and wall current.
I think people more experienced on this issue are reading this discussion.
Concerning the Earth's magnetic field as the basis of the Biefeld-Brown
effect, if the idea wasn't killed enough, one more coffin nail: Note that
the work done by a magnetic field upon a magnetic dipole (bar magnet thing)
is torque (rotation), and not linear motion, as we do get in this instance.
Scalar waves need not be instantaneous at all. Sound is a good example of
one. It is a scalar; the wave varies the pressure, which is a scalar.
Someone asked me for information sources. Of many, my best info comes from
Brown: Electrokinetic Propulsion infolio, ~80 pg. ~$10?
Rex Research, Box 19250, Jean NV 89019
Contains old articles and patent reprints and stuff.
File 24-185 The Townsend Brown Electro-Gravity device (Comprehensive
evaluation by the Office of Naval Research, with accompanying docs.
~26 pg., $10, from William Moore, 4219 West Olive Ave., Suite #247
Burbank CA 91505. I have had problems with this guy; an order missing
for three years. Caveat Emptor.
It was said:
>> >Is Brown's the patent from 1959? (2,949,550?) I read through that one,
>> and didn't see any
>> >mention of anti-gravity, just of a mysterious effect. Is anti-gravity
>> another person's
>> >interpretation of Brown's results, or did I just miss that part in the
>> patent? >
The connection to gravity was claimed by Brown himself in Science and
Invention Magazine, Aug 29, and also in the New York Times 18 Feb 29.
The former is reprinted in the above mentioned infolio.
...and it was also noted that
> This effect works best at just before the point that the air breaks down
>and an arc happens. About 6 inches of seperation and enough voltage to not
>quite jump the distance works well.
>
> When one operates this experiement, one will notice copious quantites of
>ozone are produced, which being heavier than O2, provide boyancy and thus the
>weight loss effect.
>
> Now, if you enclose the entire mess in a plastic bag, you'll find that
>it no longer gets lighter (when you weigh the O3 generated along with the
>apparatus), which in my view proves this effect is ONLY the result of boyancy
>resulting from O3 production.
This runs counter to the ion wind explanation, promoted by the US Navy 1952
investigation into this effect, known as the Biefeld-Brown effect.
Ionization means a breakdown of air. Once air is ionized, it is broken from a
dielectric into charge carriers. I believe that a corona discharge accompanies
this. Then the effect accompanies the corona, and does not precede it.
The B-Brown effect has been noted to force the capacitor in horizontal
directions, meaning that the weight difference between O2 and O3 is not a
factor.
More experimentation is in order! Do I have any takers?
I ask the next poster to set the followup to include
alt.sci.physics.new-theories, since this discussion belongs there too. I don't
know how to do this; I tried and failed.
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Charles Hope n13cc@cunyvm.cuny.edu n13cc@cunyvm
"I say glob it on ladies, go for it!" -- Tammy Faye Baker
From: ruge@linux1.wmd.de (Swen Ruge;WMD GmbH)
Subject: Re: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Date: 4 Jan 94 14:00:06 GMT
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I found this in the "krill.papers"-file from ftp.rutgers.edu:/pub/ufo/:
# Gravitational Propulsion
#
# Well, I have gotten this far in explaining some things to
# you. I might as well turn to my favorite subject of all --
# gravitational propulsion. The best place to start is with the
# efforts of a personal acquaintance of mine who had the good
# fortune to meet in England -- Mr. J. R. Searl. His investigations
# into gravitational propulsion have proven to be quite revealing --
# he's done it, and I want to tell you about it.
# In 1949, he was employed by the Midlands Board as an
# electronic fitter. He was very enthusiastic about the subject of
# electricity, though he had no formal education on the subject
# other than was required by his job. Unhindered by conventional
# ideas about electricity, he carried out his own investigation into
# the subject. During work on electrical motors and generators, he
# noticed that a small electromotive force (EMF) was produced by the
# spinning metal parts -- the negative toward the outside and the
# positive toward the rotational axis.
# In 1950, he experimented with rotating slip rings and
# measured a small EMF on a conventional meter. He also noticed that
# when the rings were spinning freely and no electrical current was
# taken, his hair bristled. His conclusions were that free electrons
# in the metal were spun out by centrifugal force being produced by
# the static field in the metal. He then decided to build a
# generator on the same principle.
# It had a segmented rotor disc, passing through electromagnets
# at its periphery. The electromagnets were energized from the
# rotor, and were intended to boost the EMF.
# By 1952, the first generator had been constructed and was
# about three feet in diameter. It was tested in the open by Searl
# and a friend. The armature was set in motion by a small engine.
# The device produced the expected electrical power, but at an
# unexpectedly high potential. At relatively low armature speeds a
# potential of the order of 10^5 volts was produced, as indicated by
# static effects on nearby objects.
# The really unexpected then occurred. While still speeding up,
# the generator lifted and rose to a height of about 50 feet above
# the ground, breaking the union between itself and the engine. Here
# it stayed for a while, still speeding up and surrounding itself
# with a pink glow. This indicated ionization of air at a much
# reduced pressure of about 10^-3 mm Hg. More interesting was the
# side effect, causing local radio receivers to go on by themselves.
# Finally, the whole generator accelerated at a fantastic rate and
# is thought to have gone off into space.
# Since that day, Searl and others have made some ten or more
# small flying craft, some of which have been similarly lost, and
# have developed a form of control. Larger craft have been built --
# some 12 feet and two 30 feet in diameter.
# Once the machine has passed a certain threshold of potential
# voltage, the energy output exceeds the input. The energy output
# seems to be virtually limitless. We made some measurements when I
# was there, and as far as we could see, the estimated output is
# somewhere in the vicinity of 10^13 to 10^15 watts. Above what
# appears to be the threshold potential, some 10^13 volts, the
# generator and attached parts become inertia-free. There is also
# some "matter snatch" upon acceleration away from the ground, since
# it tends to take a little "turf" with it when it goes.
# Analyzing what is happening is fairly easy. What the
# generator is doing is placing a "stress" on the ambient space
# around it. The space breaks down to provide the magnetism to
# relieve the stress, but the energy by-product is absorbed by the
# generator, which reinforces the field.
# It should be noted at this point that only a very small
# amount of space fabric passes through the craft and an even
# smaller amount is converted for energy. However, I have noticed
# that small changes in etheric forces lead to large physical
# effects. It was aptly demonstrated and I was impressed.
# Recently, Mr. Searl had (1987) a brush with authorities, when
# he began simply generating his own power for his own house. Now he
# doesn't have a very large house, but the Utility Board didn't like
# the fact that they had lost their monopoly. Now he lives in
# Birmingham under an assumed name. Simple, eh?
#
#
# Digitized by, and available from, IllumiNet BBS -- 4043771141
Could it be that this guy was using the Biefeld-Brown-Efect?
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From: nanook@eskimo.com (Robert Dinse)
Subject: Re: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Summary: Sound is NOT scaler
Date: 6 Jan 94 07:03:52 GMT
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
In article <94003.201707N13CC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>,
> Scalar waves need not be instantaneous at all. Sound is a good example of
> one. It is a scalar; the wave varies the pressure, which is a scalar.
Not true, sound is a VECTOR wave because it has both an amplitude AND
direction. The pressure wave you speak of has a direction of propogation.
Any wave that is not instanteous would have a direction of propogation
and hence NOT be scaler. I can determine the direction of propogation by
timing the arrival at various points.
From: dbd@martha.utcc.utk.edu (David DeLaney)
Subject: Re: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Date: 6 Jan 94 13:47:55 GMT
Organization: U. Tenn. Knoxville/Physics Dept.
nanook@eskimo.com (Robert Dinse) writes:
>
>> Scalar waves need not be instantaneous at all. Sound is a good example of
>> one. It is a scalar; the wave varies the pressure, which is a scalar.
> Not true, sound is a VECTOR wave because it has both an amplitude AND
>direction. The pressure wave you speak of has a direction of propogation.
> Any wave that is not instanteous would have a direction of propogation
>and hence NOT be scaler. I can determine the direction of propogation by
>timing the arrival at various points.
nope; you misunderstand. Sound is a scalar wave because you need only specify
one quantity at each spacetime point (they're "longitudinal"). The "propagation
vector" is a vector because it is the gradient of the scalar function, and is
the *velocity* of the particles. The "direction" only shows up because of the
time derivative or space derivative involved. Lightwaves are a vector wave,
because you need more than one number at each spacetime point to describe the
wave (they are transverse waves, so you need two instead of three numbers), and
they have an intrinsic direction at each point in spacetime, which sound waves
do not. Gravitational waves are tensor quantities, because they transform as a
tensor product of two vectors, and you need more numbers than you would for a
vector wave at each point in spacetime to specify them (specifically, they're
quadrupole waves).
Dave "graduate physics 101" DeLaney
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From: dbd@martha.utcc.utk.edu (David DeLaney)
Subject: Re: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Date: 7 Jan 94 10:08:32 GMT
Organization: U. Tenn. Knoxville/Physics Dept.
pdelong@eden.rutgers.edu (Paul DeLong) writes:
>dbd@martha.utcc.utk.edu (David DeLaney) writes:
>>...
>>time derivative or space derivative involved. Lightwaves are a vector
>>wave, because you need more than one number at each spacetime point
>>to describe the wave (they are transverse waves, so you need two
>>instead of three numbers), and they have an intrinsic direction at
>>each point in spacetime, which sound waves do not. Gravitational waves
>>are tensor quantities, because they transform as a tensor product of
>>two vectors, and you need more numbers than you would for a vector
>>wave at each point in spacetime to specify them (specifically, they're
>>quadrupole waves).
>Could electromagnetic waves also be considered quadrupole waves, since
>the electromagnetic equations are tensor equations?
Nope. "Vector" and "scalar" are particular *types* of tensor; "tensor"
is generally used for quantities that aren't describable by "vector" or
"scalar", although vectors and scalars are tensor quantities.
E&M waves are dipole waves. Gravity waves are quadrupole, because you need
two tensor indexes to describe them versus one for E&M waves. Clearer now?
Dave "I won't go into `traceless quadrupole' here" DeLaney
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From: nanook@eskimo.com (Robert Dinse)
Subject: Re: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Summary: Context
Date: 8 Jan 94 08:41:21 GMT
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
In article
> nanook@eskimo.com (Robert Dinse) writes:
>
> >In article <94003.201707N13CC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>,
> >> Scalar waves need not be instantaneous at all. Sound is a good example of
> >> one. It is a scalar; the wave varies the pressure, which is a scalar.
>
> > Not true, sound is a VECTOR wave because it has both an amplitude AND
> >direction. The pressure wave you speak of has a direction of propogation.
>
> > Any wave that is not instanteous would have a direction of propogation
> >and hence NOT be scaler. I can determine the direction of propogation by
> >timing the arrival at various points.
>
> In general usage, the term wave usually implies a traveling wave going in
> some direction of propagation. A standing wave such as a string on a
> violin is a separate, although related, case.
Herein lies the difficulty, this is NOT general usage, but rather refers
to scaler "waves" as the term was used in an article in Scientific American
a while back and also in much fringe-science material, and in this context it
means a field or wave (and wave isn't really accurate in this context but that
is what they have chosen to call them) is one with amplitude but not direction.
This scaler wave phenomena is associated in fringe-science circles with
many interesting properties that are used by "free energy" systems, anti-
gravity systems, weather modifying systems, etc. In legitimate science circles
it is related to electro-magnetic fields in some fundamental underlying way
that I don't fully understand.
Let's not turn this into a semantics war, what you are referring to is a
totally unrelated idea in a totally unrelated context.
From: t89djo@tdb.uu.se (David Jonsson)
Subject: Re: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Date: 10 Jan 94 22:49:21 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
This is possible. Look at the superconductor and ideal diamagnetism.
Only when the applied field is exactly as strong and reversed as the external
field a torque free force can be accomplished. This is the Meissner effect.
Now how big is the lifting force of the earths magnetic field if we apply
a reversed of the same strength? I assume it is like 10^-5 N/m2. Not very
much to exploit commercially. What happens when we come far from earth?
What magnetic field is there?
We can apply a stronger reversed field but need in this case som gyros to
stabilise us and to reverse the torque force. Can someone tell me about the
strongest possible gyrostabilizers. Are they mentioned in Guiness Book of
Records? If a good gyro was anchored to the magnetic device maybe a lift
could be acheived.
Another way of making gravity less (but not reverse it) is to rotate
an object. General Relativity says the object will be less attracted
to eart than a stationary one.
David
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From: meessen@marina.in2p3.fr (Christophe Meessen)
Subject: Re: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Date: 11 Jan 94 10:51:12 GMT
Organization: Centre de Physique des Particules de Marseille
In article <2gsm1h$87c@corax.udac.uu.se>, t89djo@tdb.uu.se (David Jonsson) writes:
> This is possible. Look at the superconductor and ideal diamagnetism.
> Only when the applied field is exactly as strong and reversed as the external
> field a torque free force can be accomplished. This is the Meissner effect.
> Now how big is the lifting force of the earths magnetic field if we apply
> a reversed of the same strength? I assume it is like 10^-5 N/m2. Not very
> much to exploit commercially. What happens when we come far from earth?
> What magnetic field is there?
>
> We can apply a stronger reversed field but need in this case som gyros to
> stabilise us and to reverse the torque force. Can someone tell me about the
> strongest possible gyrostabilizers. Are they mentioned in Guiness Book of
> Records? If a good gyro was anchored to the magnetic device maybe a lift
> could be acheived.
>
> Another way of making gravity less (but not reverse it) is to rotate
> an object. General Relativity says the object will be less attracted
> to eart than a stationary one.
Ever heard of MHD (magneto-hydo-dynamic) propulsion ?
This propulsion system uses electro-magnetic field, this means varying
magnetic field. By ionizing the surrounding matter, air, water or even very spare
matter as in space it is possible to push on it.
So we don't rely on a pre-existing magnetic field which is any way very weak.
And get even weaker when we get far from earth.
Suppose your system, how would you change direction without changing the objects
angle relative to the earth field. Lenticular UFOs are travelling
horizontally regarding their flat surface and the earth surface.
__________
_/ \_ UFO movement -->
\__________/
Magnetic field -> or <- or .. but horizontal.
_________________________Earth_____
So the spiral plane is parallel to the earth magnetic field.
Is the Meissner effect still working ?
How do you explain what looks like a plasma around seen objects ?
How will you explain UFO "nests" or earth burn where they landed ?
A simple explaination for me is induction. But for this we need electro-magnetic
fields, just what the MHD requires.
About the suppraconducting coil... Ever thought about the effect on the occupent
or the devices in the objects ? The effect of the magnetic field I mean ?
Ever computed the size of the coil required to produce the magnetic field ?
It's size would be such that he internal repulsive force it would create,
I'm afraid, would blast it or would make it loose it's supraconducting state.
For MHD all these problems have now their realistic solution.
Their are not yet all published, so I can not talk about all of them but it looks
to me more and more plausible.
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From: d3ejmz@selway.umt.edu (Farleymeister)
Subject: Re: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Date: 12 Jan 94 09:58:44 GMT
Organization: University of Montana
In article <2gniu2$p6d@sunb.ocs.mq.edu.au>, cperrott@retina.mpce.mq.edu.au (Chris Perrott) writes:
>
> So what you need is a saucer-shaped vehicle with a superconducting coil
> around the rim. Hmm.
>
> Chris Perrott
You asked for it...
I got this from a local BBS, the Disco hospital.
begin included file
(word processor parameters LM=8, RM=75, TM=2, BM=2)
Taken from KeelyNet BBS (214) 324-3501
Sponsored by Vangard Sciences
PO BOX 1031
Mesquite, TX 75150
October 15, 1990
listed on KeelyNet as UFO6.ZIP
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The following article was published as a two part series in the
February and March issues of "The UFO Enigma". This is the
newsletter of the UFO Study Group of Greater St. Louis, Inc. This
article could be placed under more than one catagory. Comments
anyone???
KEN HANKE
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NIKOLA TESLA
MAN AHEAD OF HIS TIME
(or How To Build a UFO)
By Bill Jones
Nikola Tesla, inventor of alternating current motors, did the
basic research for constructing electromagnetic field lift-and-drive
aircraft/space craft. From 1891 to 1893, he gave a set of lectures
and demonstrations to groups of electrical engineers. As part of
each show, Tesla stood in the middle of the stage, using his 6' 6"
height, with an assistant on either side, each 7 feet away. All 3
men wore thick cork or rubber shoe soles to avoid being electrically
grounded. Each assistant held a wire, part of a high voltage, low
current circuit. When Tesla raised his arms to each side, violet
colored electricity jumped harmlessly across the gaps between the
men. At high voltage and frequency in this arrangement, electricity
flows over a surface, even the skin, rather than into it. This is a
basic circuit which could be used by aircraft / spacecraft.
The hull is best made double, of thin, machinable, slightly
flexible ceramic. This becomes a good electrical insulator, has no
fire danger, resists any damaging effects of severe heat and cold,
and has the hardness of armor, besides being easy for magnetic
fields to pass through.
The inner hull is covered on it's outside by wedge shaped thin
metal sheets of copper or aluminum, bonded to the ceramic. Each
sheet is 3 to 4 feet wide at the horizontal rim of the hull and
tapers to a few inches wide at the top of the hull for the top set
of metal sheets, or at the bottom for the bottom set of sheets.
Each sheet is separated on either side from the next sheet by 1 or 2
inches of uncovered ceramic hull. The top set of sheets and bottom
set of sheets are separated by about 6 inches of uncovered ceramic
hull around the horizontal rim of the hull.
Page 1
The outer hull protects these sheets from being short-circuited
by wind blown metal foil (Air Force radar confusing chaff), heavy
rain or concentrations of gasoline or kerosene fumes. If
unshielded, fuel fumes could be electrostatically attracted to the
hull sheets, burn and form carbon deposits across the insulating
gaps between the sheets, causing a short-circuit. The space, the
outer hull with a slight negative charge, would absorb hits from
micro-meteorites and cosmic rays (protons moving at near the speed
of light). Any danger of this type that doesn't already have a
negative electric charge would get a negative charge in hitting the
outer hull, and be repelled by the metal sheets before it could hit
the inner hull. This wouldn't work well on a very big meteor, I
might add.
The hull can be made in a variety of shapes; sphere, football,
disc, or streamlined rectangle or triangle, as long as these metal
sheets, "are of considerable area and arranged along ideal
enveloping surfaces of very large radii of curvature," p. 85. "My
Inventions" , by Nikola Tesla.
The power plant for this machine can be a nuclear fission or
fusion reactor for long range and long-term use to run a steam
engine which turns the generators. A short range machine can use a
hydrogenoxygen fuel cell to run a low-voltage motor to turn the
generators, occasionally recharging by hovering next to high voltage
power lines and using antennas mounted on the outer hull to take in
the electricity. The short-range machine can also have electricity
beamed to it from a generating plan on a long-range aircraft /
spacecraft or on the ground.
(St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Nov. 24, 1987, Vol 109, No. 328,
"The Forever Plane" by Geoffrey Rowan, p.D1, D7.)
("Popular Science", Vol 232, No. 1, Jan. 1988, "Secret of Perpetual
Flight? Beam Power Plane," by Arthur Fisher, p. 62-65, 106)
One standard for the generators is to have the same number of
magnets as field coils. Tesla's preferred design was a thin disc
holding 480 magnets with 480 field coils wired in series surrounding
it in close tolerance. At 50 revolutions per minute, it produces
19,400 cycles per second.
The electricity is fed into a number of large capacitors, one
for each metal sheet. An automatic switch, adjustable in timing by
the pilot, closes, and as the electricity jumps across the switch,
back and forth, it raises it's own frequency; a switch being used
for each capacitor.
The electricity goes into a Tesla transformer; again, one
transformer for each capacitor. In an oil tank to insulate the
windings and for cooling, and supported internally by wood, or
plastic, pipe and fittings, each Tesla transformer looks like a
short wider pipe that is moved along a longer, narrower pipe by an
insulated non-electric cable handle. The short pipe, the primary,
is 6 to 10 windings (loops) of wire connected in series to the long
pipe. The secondary is 460 to 600 windings, at the low voltage and
frequency end.
The insulated non-electric cable handle is used through a set
Page 2
of automatic controls to move the primary coil to various places on
the secondary coil. This is the frequency control. The secondary
coil has a low frequency and voltage end and a maximum voltage and
frequency end. The greater the frequency the electricity, the more
it pushes against the earth's electrostatic and electromagnetic
fields.
The electricity comes out of the transformer at the high
voltage end and goes by wire through the ceramic hull to the wide
end of the metal sheet. The electricity jumps out on and flows over
the metal sheet, giving off a very strong electromagnetic field,
controlled by the transformer. At the narrow end of the metal
sheet, most of the high-voltage push having been given off, the
electricity goes back by wire through the hull to a circuit breaker
box (emergency shut off), then to the other side of the generators.
In bright sunlight, the aircraft / spacecraft may seem
surrounded by hot air, a slight magnetic distortion of the light.
In semi-darkness and night, the metal sheets glow, even through the
thin ceramic outer hull, with different colors. The visible light
is a by-product of the electricity flowing over the metal sheets,
according to the frequencies used.
Descending, landing or just starting to lift from the ground,
the transformer primaries are near the secondary weak ends and
therefore, the bottom set of sheets glow a misty red. Red may also
appear at the front of the machine when it is moving forward fast,
lessening resistance up front. Orange appears for slow speed.
Orange-yellow are for airplane-type speeds. Green and blue are for
higher speeds. With a capacitor addition, making it oversized for
the circuit, the blue becomes bright white, like a searchlight, with
possible risk of damaging the metal sheets involved. The highest
visible frequency is violet, like Tesla's stage demonstrations, used
for the highest speed along with the bright white. The colors are
nearly coherent, of a single frequency, like a laser.
A machine built with a set of super conducting magnets would
simplify and reduce electricity needs from a vehicle's transformer
circuits to the point of flying along efficiently and hovering with
little electricity.
When Tesla was developing arc lights to run on alternating
current, there was a bothersome high-pitched whine, whistle, or
buzz, due to the electrodes rapidly heating and cooling. Tesla put
this noise in the ultrasonic range with the special transformer
already mentioned. The aircraft / spacecraft gives off such noises
when working at low frequencies.
Timing is important in the operation of this machine. For
every 3 metal sheets, when the middle one is briefly turned off, the
sheet on either side is energized, giving off the magnetic field.
The next instant, the middle sheet is energized, while the sheet on
either side is briefly turned off. There is a time delay in the
capacitors recharging themselves, so at any time, half of all the
metal sheets are energized and the other half are recharging,
alternating all around the inner hull. This balances the machine,
giving it very good stability. This balance is less when fewer of
the circuits are in use.
Page 3
Fairly close, the aircraft / spacecraft produces heating of
persons and objects on the ground; but by hovering over an area at
low altitude for maybe 5 or 10 minutes, the machine also produces a
column of very cold air down to the ground. As air molecules get
into the strong magnetic fields that the machine is transmitting
out, the air molecules become polarized and from lines, or strings,
of air molecules. The normal movement of the air is stopped, and
there is suddenly a lot more room for air molecules in this area, so
more air pours in. This expansion and the lack of normal air motion
make the area intensely cold.
This is also the reason that the aircraft / spacecraft can fly
at supersonic speeds without making sonic booms. As air flows over
the hull, top and bottom, the air molecules form lines as they go
through the magnetic fields of the metal sheet circuits. As the air
molecules are left behind, they keep their line arrangements for a
short time,long enough to cancel out the sonic boom shock waves.
Outside the earth's magnetic field, another propulsion system
must be used, which relies on the first. You may have read of
particle accelerators, or cyclotrons, or atom smashers. A particle
accelerator is a circular loop of pipe that, in cross-section, is
oval. In a physics laboratory, most of the air in it is pumped out.
The pipe loop is given a static electric charge, a small amount of
hydrogen or other gas is given the same electric charge so the
particles won't stick to the pipe. A set of electromagnets all
around the pipe loop turn on and off, one after the other, pushing
with one magnetic pole and pulling with the next, until those gas
particles are racing around the pipe loop at nearly the speed of
light. Centrifugal force makes the particles speed closer to the
outside edge of the pipe loop, still within the pipe. The particles
break down into electrons, or light and other wavelengths, protons
or cosmic rays, and neutrons if more than hydrogen is put in the
accelerator.
At least 2 particle accelerators are used to balance each other
and counter each other's tendency to make the craft spin.
Otherwise, the machine would tend to want to start spinning,
following the direction of the force being applied to the particles.
The accelerators push in opposite directions.
As the pilot and crew travel in space, outside the magnetic
field of a world, water from a tank is electrically separated into
oxygen and hydrogen. Waste carbon dioxide that isn't used for the
onboard garden, and hydrogen (helium if the machine is using a
fusion reactor) is slowly, constantly fed into the inside curves of
both accelerators.
The high speed particles go out through straight lengths of
pipe, charged like the loops and in speeding out into space, push
the machine along. Doors control which pips the particles leave
from. This allows very long range acceleration and later
deceleration at normal (earth) gravity. This avoids the severe
problems of weightlessness, including lowered physical abilities of
the crew.
It is possible to use straight-line particle accelerators, even
as few as one per machine, but these don't seem as able to get the
best machine speed for the least amount of particles pushed out.
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Using a constant acceleration of 32.2 feet per second per
second provides earth normal gravity in deep space and only 2
gravities of stress in leaving the earth's gravity field. It takes,
not counting air resistance, 18 minutes, 58.9521636 seconds to reach
the 25,000 miles per hour speed to leave the earth's gravity field.
It takes about 354 days, 12 hours, 53 minutes and 40 seconds (about)
to reach the speed of light - 672,487,072.7 miles per hour. It
takes the same distance to decelerate as it does to speed up, but
this cuts down the time delay that one would have in conventional
chemical rocketry enormously, for a long journey.
A set of superconducting magnets can be charged by metal sheet
circuits, within limits, to whatever frequency is needed and will
continue to transmit that magnetic field frequency almost
indefinitely.
A shortwave radio can be used to find the exact frequencies
that an aircraft / spacecraft is using, for each of the colors it
may show whole a color television can show the same overall color
frequency that the nearby, but not extremely close, craft is using
This is limited, as a machine traveling at the speed of a jet
airliner may broadcast in a frequency range usually used for radar
sets.
The craft circuits override lower frequency, lower voltage
electric circuits within and near their electromagnetic fields. One
source briefly mentioned a 1941 incident, where a shortwave radio
was used to override automobile ignition systems, up to 3 miles
away. When the shortwave radio was turned off, the cars could work
again. How many UFO encounters have been reported in which
automobile ignition systems have suddenly stopped?
I figure that things would not be at all pleasant for drivers
of modern cars with computer controlled engine and ignition systems.
Computer circuitry is sensitive to small changes in voltage and a
temporary wrong-way voltage surge may wipe the computer memory out.
It could mean that a number of drivers would suddenly be stranded
with their cars not working should such a craft fly low over a busy
highway. Only diesel engines, already warmed up, and Stanley
Steamer type steam engine cares are able to continue working in a
strong electromagnetic field. In May, 1988, it was reported that
the U.S. Army had lost 5 Blackhawk helicopters and 22 crewmen in
crashes caused by ordinary commercial radio broadcasting overriding
the computer control circuits of those helicopters. Certainly,
computer circuits for for this aircraft / spacecraft can and must be
designed to overcome this weakness.
One construction arrangement for this craft to avoid such
interference is for the metal sheet circuits to be more sharply
tuned. Quartz or other crystals can be used in capacitors; in a
very large number of low-powered, single frequency circuits, or as
part of a frequency control for the metal sheet circuits.
The aircraft / spacecraft easily overrides lower frequency and
lower voltage electric circuits up to a 6 mile wide circle around
it, but the effect is usually not tuned for such a drastic show. It
can be used for fire fighting: by hovering at a medium-low height at
low frequency, it forms a double negative pole magnet of itself and
the ground, the sides being a rotation of positive magnetic pole.
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It polarizes the column of air in this field. The air becomes
icy cold. If it wouldn't put the fire out, it would slow it down.
Tesla went broke in the early 1900's building a combination
radio and electric power broadcasting station. The theory and
experiments were correct but the financiers didn't want peace and
prosperity for all.
The Japanese physicist who developed superconducting material
with strong magnetism allows for a simplified construction of the
aircraft / spacecraft. Blocks of this material can be used in place
of the inner hull metal sheets. By putting electricity in each
block, the pilot can control the strength of the magnetic field it
gives off and can reduce the field strength by draining some of the
electric charge. This allows the same amount of work to be done
with vastly less electricity used to do it.
It is surprising that Jonathan Swift, in his "Gulliver's
Travels", 1726, third book, "A Voyage to Laputa", described an
imagined magnetic flying island that comes close to being what a
large superconducting aircraft / spacecraft can be build as, using
little or no electric power to hover and mover around.
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So that's your superconducting disk. It's been around quite a while now,
eh? :-)
Jim
From: t89djo@tdb.uu.se (David Jonsson)
Subject: Re: AntiGravity / Biefeld-Brown
Date: 12 Jan 94 15:32:11 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Christophe Meessen (meessen@marina.in2p3.fr) wrote:
: In article <2gsm1h$87c@corax.udac.uu.se>, t89djo@tdb.uu.se (David Jonsson) writes:
: > This is possible. Look at the superconductor and ideal diamagnetism.
: > Only when the applied field is exactly as strong and reversed as the external
: > field a torque free force can be accomplished. This is the Meissner effect.
: Ever heard of MHD (magneto-hydo-dynamic) propulsion ?
Yes but this is powerconsumtioning which Meissner-hoovering isn't.
This seems like a very energy consuming way of propulsion. Just like current
rocketengines. You would gain very little in this.
: So we don't rely on a pre-existing magnetic field which is any way very weak.
The Meissner-hoovering is actually done by the earth and the UFO is the magnet.
: __________
: _/ \_ UFO movement -->
: \__________/
: Magnetic field -> or <- or .. but horizontal.
: _________________________Earth_____
A MHD propulsed UFO has to tilt very much to produce the very high
accelerations seen by UFOs. A Meissner UFO has to tilt very little to
accelerate. The picture you draw is in my favour.
: So the spiral plane is parallel to the earth magnetic field.
: Is the Meissner effect still working ?
The coils plane is parallell to gravity when hoovering. It is slightly
tilted to moove horisontally.
: How do you explain what looks like a plasma around seen objects ?
: How will you explain UFO "nests" or earth burn where they landed ?
As the UFO is mooving at several thousands mph it gets hot and surrounding
air becomes plasma. When the UFO lands the soil gets burned.
: About the suppraconducting coil... Ever thought about the effect on the occupent
: or the devices in the objects ? The effect of the magnetic field I mean ?
: Ever computed the size of the coil required to produce the magnetic field ?
: It's size would be such that he internal repulsive force it would create,
: I'm afraid, would blast it or would make it loose it's supraconducting state.
The materials to produce the Meissnerhoovering does not exist today.
The field inside the UFO has to be shielded to protect the travellers and
the internal equipment.
: For MHD all these problems have now their realistic solution.
: Their are not yet all published, so I can not talk about all of them but it looks
: to me more and more plausible.
Again, the methods you present are very energy consuming.
More critisism to my UFO model is welcome. I just wait for fields at about
200-300 Tesla to be available. I will then begin experimenting.
David
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